We’ve had a few weeks to absorb the news of Amazon’s latest foray into the healthcare space. And we’ve mulled over the words of Neil Lindsay, Amazon’s health services chief, who told the Wall Street Journal on the day of the announcement:
“’We think healthcare is high on the list of experiences that need reinvention,’ said Neil Lindsay, senior vice president of Amazon Health Services. ‘We see lots of opportunity to both improve the quality of the experience and give people back valuable time in their days.’”
Reminds us of an anecdote shared by John Sculley, legendary former CEO of Apple and Pepsi. In a famous story, he recounted how he helped create the two-liter soda bottle, redefining beverage delivery. Seems people wanted more soda at home, but glass bottles were a pain to deal with – expensive, heavy, breakable and hard to deliver. So, Pepsi worked with DuPont to build a light, large plastic bottle. The rest is history.
Sculley drew parallels between his two-liter bottle and healthcare. The current model, he said, is complex, unwieldy, expensive and hard to deliver. It’s ready to be bottled in a different way. In a way that people want and need.
Primary care is ready for its own two-liter bottle. Apparently, Amazon thinks the same.
Now that the initial wow factor of that news has passed, the long-term outlook for the Amazon-One Medical deal and its impact on healthcare in general is hazy. But some hints of change are emerging, including what appears to be an 1849-style gold rush.
David Smith, founder and CEO of healthcare advisory firm Third Horizon Strategies noted that the intensity around this deal feels a bit different. For years, he said, there was “exuberance” that care delivery would be rethought and reworked through disruptive outsiders. And there was activity that created change at the margins. But, generally, no massive disruption. Referencing Haven, Amazon’s previous high-profile healthcare venture when it partnered with Berkshire Hathaway and JP Morgan Chase, Smith said that while it was a highly touted, “It was the first time I saw something of a collective yawn. There was an element of, ‘We’re not buying it, this time.’”
He maintains now that the pendulum has swung back with the One Medical news. Though unconvinced about how truly disruptive it will be in the end, the buzz he’s hearing is that it has “disruptive potential.”(For more on why Smith is a skeptic, see our Q&A with him here.)
Consumer preference continues to grow as a major force for disruption in healthcare.
Amazon wants to be a leader in “dramatically” improving the consumer experience when it comes to healthcare. For years, healthcare insiders have talked about an industry that’s facing disruptive forces and needs to improve. The catalyst? Consumer choice. While others are grappling with how to offer that, Amazon, Walgreens, Walmart and CVS have developed strategies that are deeply informed by their understanding of consumer behavior. Their challenge has been working through the care delivery part. So, this may be the moment when the stars align as a major force for change. One Medical is a consumer play and among the first of its kind from inside healthcare. Their new owners have essentially defined the modern consumer experience.
Smith said that Amazon has “an intriguing perspective to delivering care” as a tech business able to amass important information on its users and create a more frictionless, seamless and even integrated experience for patients. “If Amazon can bring that discipline to how a person thinks about their health and how they interact with the healthcare system, that’s something to be excited about,” he observed.
It reinforces the enormous business potential of primary care.
Primary care is valuable and essential. It’s an entry point to the rest of the system and critical for managing health. But primary care has low margins and needs scale to succeed on a business level. That’s hard to do, yet necessary for patients. And it’s attractive for investors who are ready to find that scale. Over the 15 years of its existence, One Medical has taken the time to build a model that appears to work, that people like and that has some traction. Amazon recognizes that steady growth.
Still, there’s a long way to go. “If Amazon/One Medical can activate the demand side and create a bolus in scale, that will make them a power center,” said Smith. “But the pathway will require far more scale than One Medical has today.” Critically, he said, it will also take a lot of trust for people to be comfortable shifting from buying their books and office supplies and baby formula to buying healthcare.
It demonstrates that Amazon isn’t backing down from the challenge of reinventing healthcare.
Depending on your perspective, Amazon and Optum have been either the bully or the hero in pushing transformation on the industry. So far, Amazon’s movement has been limited. It’s been sandboxing ideas, testing opportunities. As our colleagues at The Chartis Group put it,
“The company’s earlier investments and ventures (including PillPack, Halo, Amazon Care, and even Haven) seem to have provided learnings and building blocks.”
This is their biggest healthcare play yet. And it also feels different. It shows that, despite its failed Haven dance party with JP Morgan and Berkshire Hathaway, Amazon isn’t walking away. In one sense that’s a challenge to established players. But it can also give confidence to others, particularly in the health-services realm. It’s a signal that these types of plays are worth risking. We don’t know how this will shake out, but we know the healthcare sector is exposed both in the customer experience and the innovative process. Whatever happens with this marriage will affect both of those things and provide some validation for others.
It strengthens the case for a future in which hospitals are centers for acute care. Period.
As non-traditional players and health-services organizations redefine the consumer experience and build new models of care, there’s obvious pressure on hospitals and health systems. This points to hospitals slowly trending as places where really sick people will go.
Furthermore, it strengthens the emerging blend of virtual and in-person services that’s already re-written the rules for retail. Sri Mani, a director in The Chartis Group’s Private Equity Advisory and Strategy practice, said that this was one of his first thoughts when seeing news of the acquisition. “It begins to signal that a company that is built on virtual provision of services recognizes that not everything can be virtual,” he said. “Some things such as healthcare need a human touch.”
In this deal, he noted the hybrid of virtual and retail needed for primary care today. For traditional providers, it’s finding the appropriate blend by shifting from in-person to virtual, and for Amazon, it’s about shifting in the opposite direction. “They’re going to help us establish what the balance is,” he said.
This blended, hub-and-spoke model of care is becoming a reality. But the spokes aren’t necessarily owned by the hub. This doesn’t have to be unwelcome news. In fact, it might be liberating. Hospitals and health systems can use that to their advantage – taking bigger risks towards projects designed to improve the patient experience. Opening the door to new partnerships. Working with disruptors to create a referral pipeline so that each organization is providing the care it’s best suited to – and in the most efficient, convenient, cost-effective way. Eventually, that benefits everyone, even if the transition is painful. Amazon isn’t backing down, but it also has a long way to go. That leaves the door open to traditional providers and health services companies to do what they do so well while continuing to add a virtual component to care delivery.
It signals the start of the next phase in Big Tech’s healthcare landgrab
In the past year, several big acquisitions, partnerships and explorations have come to light, including a couple since the Amazon news:
And that’s not even mentioning Amazon’s own expansion in other areas, such as their August 5 acquisition of iRobot. (Might Amazon replace environmental services teams with Roombas at One Medical offices?)
When asked what lessons investors and other health services companies could take from this new partnership, Mani said, “It’s a signal to other companies out there. One Medical was the largest of them all – it was publicly traded, had the name recognition. And they sought out an acquirer right now. Should those other companies do the same?”
It showcases the need for a clear value proposition
Mani noted that we’ve entered a market where volatility has made issuing equity challenging “If you’re any of these other parties who want to issue equity or borrow to fund new acquisitions, it’s tougher now,” he said. “You have to tell a growth story that’s really compelling because you have to juxtapose it against what happened at One Medical.”
It raises questions for traditional providers
So with Amazon’s strength in scale, capital, customer loyalty, data collection and analysis, supply chain and logistics and integrating digital with physical. What happens to the traditional provider? Mani is particularly focused on the local element, with a series of questions that no one has answers to, yet:
Some final caveats.
Let’s close with two reality checks:
Even with those caveats, Amazon splashing the cash is always important to watch. Not as a threat. But as a guide from which we can take ideas and use as a framework to consider how our organizations can pursue more efficient, cost-effective and consumer-friendly approaches to our work. It’s a chance to rethink our glass bottles and maybe come up with something just a little bit lighter.
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David Smith is an expert in healthcare’s evolution, spending his professional time watching – and advising on – market trends, data and technology and how healthcare organizations can plan for the future. So, we checked in with Smith, who’s founder and CEO of healthcare advisory firm Third Horizon Strategies, for his takes on Amazon’s recent acquisition of primary care company One Medical. We also offer seven observations on what the deal means here.
Jarrard Inc.: What’s the feeling around the acquisition now that some time has passed?
David Smith: A few years ago, every time there was an event – or even whisper of an event – with Microsoft or Apple or Amazon, there would be an irrational exuberance. The feeling was, ‘These guys have figured out how to grow and scale and they understand consumers, so they’re going to figure out healthcare!’ And time after time, we haven’t seen a lot of disruption from these entities.
That led to something of a jaded reaction to these kinds of announcements around, say, 2017 or 2018. Haven is an example where there was a lot of press but also a bit of a collective yawn.
With One Medical, the pendulum has swung back a bit. A lot of smart industry people believe this has some disruptive potential. My sense is that the industry is cautiously excited about what this might portend for disrupting the traditional outpatient model.
JI: Does it matter what the healthcare industry thinks? Or is Amazon just going to do what Amazon is going to do and those of us in healthcare are getting hyped up?
DS: Where it should matter to Amazon or to anybody studying this is that industry professionals represent the collective wisdom and experience of decades of trying different reforms. Sometimes that can make their perspectives biased.
So, on the one hand, when it comes to disruption you don’t always want to take every word from those being disrupted. On the other hand, there is a lot of useful wisdom in that collective institutional experience. The fact that there’s some exuberance here suggests that there’s a sense Amazon is capable of doing something with the One Medical asset that other outpatient entities or institutional investors like Optum are less capable of doing.
JI: What else is driving the exuberance? Why now?
DS: Even though they do a lot of commercial business and B2B business, Amazon at its core is a tech-enabled consumer-oriented business. In that context, Amazon has successfully disrupted just about any other industry they’ve gone into. So, they have a track record. Still, the healthcare landscape in this country is littered with people with track records that tried healthcare and weren’t successful.
In my view there are two sources of exuberance:
The first is that, as a technology business which has created different pathways and nodes to amass important information on its users, Amazon’s potential ability to create a more frictionless, seamless, perhaps even integrated experience for patients is intriguing. Amazon has made it very easy to purchase things; they’ve made it very easy to access information. So, one area of enthusiasm is that if Amazon can bring that discipline to how a person thinks about their health and how they interact with the health system, that’s something to be excited about.
The second area is where the rubber meets the road. Amazon by itself is not going to be able to wield some kind of unique contracting power with health insurance companies. To be blunt, consumerism is really important, but we also need to acknowledge that, in this country, the healthcare dollar and how that dollar is allocated and organized is not a decision consumers make.
Amazon’s ability to be successful revolves around that first area. If they can activate the demand side and start to create a bolus in scale, moving them into a position where they can influence and shape how consumers are interacting with the system, that would make them a power center.
JI: Do you think they can do it? What are the caveats?
DS: Amazon has scale. They understand consumers. They understand technologies. That’s important but even so, there aren’t many examples of a heavily capitalized tech entity that has purchased a healthcare asset and been able to replicate the secret sauce that scaled their platform and extended it to healthcare. The economics in this industry are just so wildly different from any other.
If Amazon can activate significant demand, that kind of power center can wield the economics a lot differently. But the pathway to getting there would require far more scale than One Medical has today. It would also require the ability to gain the trust of a consumer who today is buying books or baby formula or office supplies. That consumer now has to look to Amazon and say, ‘I trust you to be my healthcare guide,’ and creating that trust is a monumental task.
JI: Pulling all of this together, what’s the opportunity for One Medical?
DS: Driving change and shifting the market are things that health systems, outpatient groups, health insurers and even governments are not great at. Employers have the potential to do it, but that requires employers coming together to think about how to wield their collective purchasing power. The challenge is that anybody who’s tried to harness and redirect the collective purchasing power of consumers in this country has typically done it for a narrow niche of the industry rather than comprehensively.
We’ll also need to watch the hundreds of thousands of permutations of healthcare finance. It changes by community, by payer, by rules, what’s written in, what’s carved out, how much is paid for any given service. And so not only do you have to aggregate different consumers and different communities with different levels of access, you have to do that in the context of highly unique healthcare ecosystems.
So that’s the biggest opportunity and challenge. If One Medical’s ambition is to do this at scale nationwide, they’ll start to look at these things more regionally and start to create patterns whereby they can aggregate and focus demand. That has the potential to begin shifting the economics.
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Change is hard and, these days, it’s compounding. Big disruptions layered with small pivots have led to a tough environment where “one more thing” is a burden, not an exciting opportunity.
In this environment, healthcare executives and hospital board members are challenged with walking a fine line – guiding their organizations through disruption while acknowledging the uncertainty, making decisions when the path forward is foggy, and processing their own exhaustion, too.
Jarrard Inc. CEO David Jarrard and McDermott Will & Emery partner Michael Peregrine – both of whom have a deep interest in helping healthcare executives and boards navigate change – sat down to talk about the situation. They first acknowledge the challenge, then provide some historical context, then offer a few ideas for getting through it all.
Here’s an overview of the conversation. Listen to the whole thing or read the transcript below.
The Challenges:
It’s natural to wonder about the point of making long-term plans when we’re experiencing constant upheaval and uncertainty, when change has worn us down, when so much is out of our control.
In healthcare this is borne out as we see increasing responsibility – and opportunity – arrive at the door of provider organizations. And, some of the forces that have been serving as accelerants of change over the past few years have grown to be more disruptive. These factors are like the lighter fluid that started a campfire in a dry forest.
The Risk:
The tendency is to focus on and do what is doable. We tend to act on what’s right in front of us. And, while that is right and necessary in a crisis, it is not sustainable long-term. Spending too much time in the short-term leads to susceptibility to competition and disruption.
The Solutions:
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David Shifrin: Michael and David. So, a lot of change disruption happening these days, and it’s happening in ways that put pressure on us and on health care leaders, both personally, as well as professionally.
I guess just a few things to note, to run down the list; although this definitely isn’t comprehensive, we’ve got the Dobbs decision, which is just one of a number of significant Supreme Court decisions this term. We’ve got the great resignation and kind of the workforce reshuffling, we’re facing down the prospects of massive inflation, which continues, as well as a potential recession. We’ve got the ongoing epidemic of gun violence. We at Jarrard just put out some resources to help healthcare providers be involved in that conversation. There’s the political divide; there’s lack of trust that we’re seeing. And then, Michael, you even mentioned the shakeup in college sports recently, with schools moving between conferences as something to flag. So, there’s so much, it’s exhausting.
And so, I’ll just kick us off here and then let you both converse with each other and bounce ideas back and forth but to start with, just talk about where that overwhelming collection of change is leading us and how people are processing it, or maybe failing to process it.
[00:01:54] Michael Peregrine: I think that’s right. You mentioned the change in college football. I think that put the capstone on it for me in terms of, it’s not that people and leaders are afraid of change, per se. I think they’re, to use your word, exhausted by this pace and the profound nature of the change. Too much, too fast change to traditions on which people counted on as normality in their lives, as predictable in their lives.
And one by two by three they’re being taken away from folks. So, I think, and David, I’m interested in your view. I think it’s a question of losing faith in the ability to control events. I know that I was particularly shaken in this environment of violence. The Abe assassination was one that I put down on my list because, again, I always thought we could count on living in a global society where we were civilized nations. These things don’t happen. And that’s really,
I guess the question, David Jarrard, I have is, I’m wondering if our leaders are saying that “when will this stop?” These things that we, these guard rails of society, these guard rails of organizations, seem to be eroding. And if we can’t count on them, and David Shifrin, going to your point, what’s the use of trying? What’s the use of planning? What’s the use of looking forward? You know, we talk about the three-year strategic plan being superseded by the five-year strategic plan, being superseded by the never-ending or ongoing strategic plan. Why even engage in strategic planning, if we’re just getting pummeled on a daily basis with things that we’ve counted on being obliterated? David, what’s your take?
[00:03:43] David Jarrard: Yeah. And in that environment, it’s the latest change that gets the greatest attention because it’s the latest change. It’s right in front of you. And everyday can begin to feel like a fire drill because you’re, as a leadership group, as a board, and even as a staff member.
I’m thinking of, of course, our hospital health system client, you run from event to event. It’s like having moved from a surgery suite, where everything is well planned and coordinated. And a good surgery, runs like a ballet. You know exactly what you’re doing, how you’re doing it to the ER, where you don’t know what’s going to come in the door next and you are running and gunning. You’re looking for supplies and trying to take care of people and keep folks alive and make it through the shift. It’s a whole different environment and way of thinking, and ER nurses and ER physicians, they have a different mindset than that orthopedic surgeon who’s been around for 30 years and knows exactly what they’re doing and how to do it.
It’s, and to your point, it’s not just the change. It’s the culmination of a whole series of changes. And it’s that sense of a lack of control where you can, you can begin to think, “what’s next? Why even act?” And I’ll add one more that we’re really paying attention to. It’s the decline of trust in organizations, in institutions. And healthcare systems continue to be very trusted organizations. And so, as other organizations become less trusted, more responsibility seems to land at the doorstep of our hospitals and health systems.
[00:05:09] Michael Peregrine: Yeah, from a leadership perspective, what troubles me is the concern that leaders for both executives and directors to pull back from engaging more fully in issues.
This is something that you, as you and I have talked, that Mitt Romney recently wrote about in the Atlantic. A concern that it’s easier to take the easiest, most simple solution to complex problems even though you have a fair likelihood of believing that it’s the wrong solution. But it’s easy, it’s quick and it’s available. Whether it’s denying that a problem exists or taking a shortcut. It’s this loss of a willingness to engage. Because again, we can’t count on traditional traditions. We can’t count on traditional guard rails to hold up. So, we’re playing short term ball. We’re making short-term decisions. We’re allocating capital on a short-term basis. We’re not planning for the future. So, when we come out of the current combination of crises that our clients are going through, will we be prepared for the next phase? Will we have prepared strategically? Will we be more susceptible to disruption and competition and regulation?
You just worry about this wearing down on our executives and our board members and it being just, when have we really hit the last straw? You’ve talked about it.
[00:06:32] David Jarrard: I agree. We, particularly, our leadership teams in healthcare systems are used to a strong sense of agency. Like driving forward and shaping the delivery of care and having some control over what happens next. And so, we are all built, particularly in healthcare, but other industries too, to do what’s doable. What can I do today that’s actually going to make a change and make a difference?
And Michael, I think you’re exactly right. Things have become so chaotic beyond our vision. That we act on those things that are right in front of us. So, we become tree people instead of forest people when we act. Which can be helpful short term; it can maybe be great in a pandemic, great in a global crisis, but not in a long-term event. It’s not a long-term solution to the crisis. That doesn’t seem to end.
[00:07:18] Michael Peregrine: And also, David, I’m concerned that if this is affecting our colleagues in the boardroom and in the C-suite, it’s got to be affecting the workforce as well. What do you say?
[00:07:28] David Jarrard: Oh, for sure. You know, our hospitals and health systems, they are not immune. they’re not an island. I mean, all the things that we experience in our communities are happening in the halls of our facilities as well. And we see it play out like position by position, job by job, in our hospitals.
And you see that in nurse staffing issues. You see it in labor activity. You see it in consumers being more and more reluctant to go spend that money, to receive the care that they should receive that would be helpful to them that will forgo longer-term health care costs. But, because they can’t see the future, they don’t know if they’re going to continue to have a job. They don’t know if they can live with continual 9% inflation that erodes their wages. They’re not seeking the care or may not seek that care in the future. Which has this cyclical effect, it reduces the revenue hospitals receive, which reduces their ability to pay nurses at a wage that is in competition with Chick-fil-A, for goodness sake. And so, it begins to build on itself into a significant issue.
[00:08:27] Michael Peregrine: And I guess the one thing that I worry about, particularly with respect to the board, is it’s trying to be a true partner in management and help lead the organization through all these very difficult times. Including the extraordinary economic issues that they’re having right now. Will board members be up to making the commitment to invest? And looking towards the future, in being an effective partner again if they are concerned that those things they knew and counted on are no longer reliable? And will there be another shoe to drop in terms of one of these change curveballs?
I particularly am concerned that what we see in the polls is about a lack of trust in democratic principles. At some point, is there a line that we’re crossing where our leaders will look to themselves saying, “after this, I know there’s really only one thing I can trust and it’s my judgment. It might not be the judgment of my collective group. My fellow executives, my colleagues on the board. I’m going to go with my gut because I know that’s not changing even though everything else around me is changing.” And that’s just antithetical to effective governance. And it is not what our industry needs at this time. And again, I’m sure you’re seeing this as well with the people you deal with in crisis management and communications.
[00:09:44] David Jarrard: That’s such a good point. Because we as a board, although the last, 20 or 24 months through the pandemic have been a very challenging time, we’ve been able to talk about the pandemic as an accelerant of change. What the pandemic has really done has made things that were already changing, just move faster.
So, telehealth, telemedicine, all the elements that are part of that new evolution of healthcare, are just occurring faster. And in some cases, that was a good thing. This strange environment gave us permission to move in the direction we wanted to go anyway. In the last year though, it’s felt like the changes have not been accelerants of change. They’ve been almost purely disruptive. And it’s impossible to anticipate. And so, the result is the bets are bigger. The risks feel higher. Because, as you say, no one has a model to predict this one outlier after another. There’s not necessarily math you can run. There’s not an analysis you can do that will give you a margin of error. So, you have to lean more on, and I love the way you say, you have to lean on your gut. What you believe to be true. And that seems to make ultimately the real job, the ultimate job of a board.
[00:10:51] Michael Peregrine: What worries me too, and has to be corrected, is the concern that the foundational principles, the core understandings of the industry, that our volunteer directors, or even our compensated directors came on board. And there were those principles or those operating guidelines, those basic understandings about the healthcare industry that they were weaned on, that they came to understand. The foundational principles and the understandings and the stipulations that underscore the strategic plan. Again, if we lose confidence in these types of factors because of the Powerful rapidity of change, we’re again, operating on an “I’m taking it one day at a time” basis. And that can be catastrophic for an organization’s future. And we, and that to me, that shift from a focus on the long-term vision to the “I just have to get through tomorrow” vision, that’s what we have to protect against.
[00:11:49] David Jarrard: And I know you work with so many boards, and I know how seriously they take the idea that they are trustees. That they are entrusted with this extraordinary organization, you know, often times hundreds of millions of dollars or multi-billion dollars of revenues and thousands of jobs. I know that weighs heavily. And so, they take seriously the ability to plan for the future and invest in the future two years, five years, 10 years out. I’m curious, as they are thinking today, how are they beyond their gut thinking about the future, sort of, envisioning about what the future is going to bring so they can plan for it?
[00:12:24] Michael Peregrine: It’s got to be a frustration again, because they contribute to a strategic vision in a variety of perspectives. They’re making bets on certain developments. And again, if they find out that they’re really unable, that change is coming too fast and too strong, their willingness to take informed risks, David, I think we’ll be limited. And that is, I keep coming back, that will be the greatest harm of this. And this is why, this kind of a miasma has to be stopped before it gets much traction.
And I was thinking about something. I saw a blip in the paper the other day. We just passed the 43rd anniversary, and I’m sure you have this on your calendar, of Jimmy Carter’s malaise speech. There’s been a lot of anniversaries this summer, with Sarbanes, with Watergate. But I thought to myself, wait a minute, as someone who waited in line for hours at the gas station during that period of time, and remembering a speech, I thought, there’s a little bit of similarity there. You had back then, as I recall, this overarching sense of an inability as a country to control our own destiny. We were no longer in charge of events, and to a certain extent, I’d be interested in your view, that seems to be where we’re headed right now with this change fatigue. We can’t stop these things from occurring. Things that we relied on are no longer reliable. We cannot control events. Do you see that as relevant at all?
[00:13:56] David Jarrard: I do say it’s very relevant. And I do remember that speech and I do remember the heckling he got afterwards. I have two thoughts about that. And the kind of communications that leaders are and could be delivering today. When I think about Carter’s comments, he wasn’t wrong to call out that this was an issue; that there’s a concern. And recognizing how the voters at the time, at least how he felt the voters at the time were feeling and thinking. I think it’s right for a leader to see the folks that they are asking to follow them. Is that recognition? I think that’s really important, and I think that’s what he was attempting to do.
But the other element of that message was there’s a problem, and I don’t know what to do about it. I’m not sure, I feel helpless, just like you. And that was, that’s the disconnect right there, that that can’t be the message leadership delivers. So, it’s great to recognize it. It’s great to call it out. It’s great to show appreciation for it and sort of shared empathy. But then, as a leader, therefore here’s what we’re going to do. Here’s how we’re going to tackle this problem. Not that I have the answers, but I know how we’re going to get into it together. I think that’s an important element for leaders today.
[00:15:07] Michael Peregrine: I agree with you. And as I thought about it, and again, I know that half of our clients have no idea what we’re talking about. But I think part of the problem, again, Carter did have his finger on the pulse. There was a crisis of American competence, and communication was what failed him. The communication of his vision failed him and ultimately failed his presidency.
And as I recall, David, this is germane to the subject of, how do we address this in the context of our clients? Somehow, he allowed the conversation on his message to shift from “we need to work together for the common good and make some self-sacrifice” to “Mr. President, you’re criticizing our way of life. You’re making moral judgments on our consumerism. You’re suggesting that we’re overly reliant on materialism and you’re blaming us for the problem.” And that, I think, as inaccurate as it was, took over the dialogue. I come back to your expertise in response to change fatigue as it may be creeping in with an organization just seems to me, not just what the message is, but how it’s delivered.
[00:16:19] David Jarrard: Yes, very much. And some of that message has to be action. So, it’s the recognition that there’s this issue. It’s acknowledging that there’s a challenge with creating a vision in such a cloudy environment. How do we see past the fog into the future? So therefore, and here’s the key, it’s always the, so therefore what? So therefore, we’re not going to cross arms and go into our boardroom and worry about the future. So therefore, we’re going to create teams. We’re going to involve you. We’re going to create a dialogue. We’re going to construct this and reconstruct it together. So even if the answer is, we’re not sure about the future, it’ll be an answer we all came to together.
So just the action of pulling people together in concert can be hugely energizing. Because then you’ve set the organization up for whatever direction you need to change. And because we will need to change, but you’ve set them up to acknowledge their own consensus building in that work. And that’s the right place for leadership right now.
[00:17:15] Michael Peregrine: Not to be Pollyannish, but I think that there’s an element where leadership here, it has as an opportunity to, through a durable optimism approach, say, “let’s take a look at what we’re dealing with right now. Maybe we can’t be, here’s where we stand in the industry. Here’s our financial position. Here are the things that are positive about this organization. Here are the tools we have to work with and here’s our position within the industry, and here’s what we do know.” And create a vision in saying that “we here at this health system are actually in a relatively stable position. These are things that you, the workforce, you, the board, us, the management team, we can count on this universe of knowns. And therefore, we are to a certain extent, maybe better than others in a position to control our destiny, even if that destiny is in the near term.”
So, I come back to your point about energy. When I’m tired, when I’m down, when I’m lazy, when I just don’t feel up to it, something energetic snaps me out of it. And I think that the energy, David, of the communication, as much as the context of the communication, is what may be necessary, in part, to counter this fatigue. The sense of loss of faith that nothing matters anymore because the future is changing every day.
[00:18:34] David Jarrard: I love the phrase durable optimism. I wrote it down as you said it. I think that’s so important to this. And to your other point, which I fully agree, and as part of our change management work is, before you can really talk about change, you have to talk about those things that aren’t changing. That will never change. This is what we know to be true.
And if you worry about all the changes that are happening, you can begin to worry that everything is going to change. That these shifts are going to change, this floor is going to change, and our mission’s going to change. And we know as an organization that short of something truly extraordinary, these things aren’t changing. This is who we are and who we’ve been for a hundred years or whatever the message is.
So, that ability to ground those things and put off the table those things that can bring some foundation and some solid ground, I think is a really important part of the message.
[00:19:30] Michael Peregrine: Don’t you think that’s a message that has to be delivered not just by the CEO, but by the linked arms of senior management and the board?
[00:19:37] David Jarrard: Yes. And the important role of the board here can be overstated to deliver that message to senior leadership. It’s the board’s commitment to this direction or these fundamentals that is key to unleashed leadership to get into this work.
[00:19:54] David Shifrin: All right. For the last couple of minutes here, let’s get very tactical. How do healthcare boards and executive teams deliver those messages? What are the tactics that are needed right now to make that connection with employees while also providing an opportunity for feedback and acknowledging the personal stress that leadership is undergoing themselves? How do you roll that in what’s the day-to-day for delivering these? Michael, I’ll start with you here.
[00:20:19] Michael Peregrine: Well, David, from my perspective, it has to start with leadership in the boardroom. And basically, the board chair and other leaders saying, “this is not a soft issue. This is a big deal. In all of our lives. We need to realize that we need to confront it, and we need to understand that for the potential risk, it is to our organization and our culture.”
So, David, I would start off by saying board leadership has to own the issue and convince the board that this is something that they must attack as a strategic concern for the organization. It’s got to start so that it’s buying in with the tone at the top. That’s job number one for me.
[00:20:57] David Jarrard: Very much so, and to affect that, is to recognize the needs of the senior leadership. And it’s, we talk about the mental health of our staff and colleagues and physicians and nurses and burnout and stress. It happens at the top, too. And as we move through dramatic things like this, recognizing that’s a need. And this group needs to be together and solid and comfortable addressing those things before they can be who they need to be within their organization.
[00:21:25] Michael Peregrine: That’s why I think that the board has to shift into high gear if it’s not already in high gear already. And begin to take a series of steps that represent a visible demonstration of their leadership and their buy-in on this issue and send that message of durable optimism. Meeting more as a board as opposed to meeting less. Having more sessions with the executive leadership team. Being visible in the institutional community. Having more town hall meetings between management and employees. A visible demonstration of board’s commitment and belief. And belief in the future and stability of the organization, not just the economic and quality and delivery of care stability, but the mission stability. As you said, David, we continue to stand for what we’ve always stood for, and you can count on that. That isn’t changing.
[00:22:21] David Jarrard: I remember years ago, during another sort of economic downturn working with a number of Catholic hospitals who were run by a group of sisters. And even though things were hard and there were questions about the future, they would tell stories about selling the chandeliers and selling this piece of land, that piece of property, or doing away with this practice because we will always support this. We will never not be that. And it was such a grounding story that they told that reminded people that we’re committed to this, no matter what we have to do to get there. I think that the level of commitment and that storytelling and remembering who we are, remembering why we are is really important.
And I really want to highlight a message you just delivered about visibility and that visibility through personal engagement. One of our core beliefs is that communications happen in a lot of ways. And part of it is the words that you use and the emails that you send out. But the messages that are delivered through the theater of physical interaction, walking the halls, body language in a presentation, being so optimistic that you’re willing to be present with people and shake their hands and hear their concerns, and cry with them, or pray with them, or be with them is hugely impactful. And it creates a kind of trust that is gold in times of change like this. Really want to highlight that point. I think it’s fundamentally important here.
[00:23:50] David Shifrin: Well, Michael and David, thanks so much for your time. It’s always fun. Always fascinating. And look forward to our next conversation. This has been great.
[00:23:57] Michael Peregrine: Thank you both.
[00:23:58] David Jarrard: Thanks, David. Thanks, Michael.
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The Big Story: Fed Fights Inflation With Another Big Rate Increase
And: GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal.
Says Moody’s Analytics chief economist: “The economy is close to stall speed, moving forward, but barely.”
What it Means for Healthcare Providers
Aggressive inflation and the bitter medicine of rising interest rates are the latest gut-punch for providers serving in an endless pandemic, holding together an exhausted workforce, assuring anxious patients and striving to stay relevant and in business.
You’ve seen the plot points for a while. Wage wars. Rising medical debt. Tense payer negotiations. Hesitant, cash-strapped customers. The lack of supply and the cost of, well, everything, from gloves to scrubs to the burgers served in your food court.
But taken as a whole, where does this story take us? Paul Keckley wrote this week that he sees the impact in at least three broad categories.
But how does this big picture affect our agenda for this week’s leadership team meetings? As leaders and communicators, what do we do now?
Good question. To help, we tapped into our Jarrard Inc. brain trust and asked colleagues who work alongside providers big and small this question: “What does ongoing inflation and uncertainty mean operationally, and how should communicators address it?”
Here are their takeaways.
Billing and Cost of Care
By Abby McNeil, vice president, National & Academic Health Systems Practice
Bad debt will rise. That holds true for institutions and patients. Focusing on patients, systems may consider offering greater flexibility on payment terms to help manage the burden and minimize people delaying care due to cost concerns.
Communications Imperatives:
Physician Compensation
By James Cervantes, vice president, National & Academic Health Systems Practice
Competition and expectations will increase. Though they earn more than the average American, like the average American, their home pay is not keeping up with inflation. After record rises in 2021, inflation is set to again outpace expected physician salary growth of two to four percent in 2022. So those three percent increases provider organizations consider doling out to docs don’t go so far in showing the love.
Add to that increasing physician burnout, shifting Medicare fee schedule rates and growing reluctance to pay out shared savings – due to uncertainty and lower hospital margins – and you’re likely to have more unhappy docs coming through hospital doors. It’s a great opportunity for private equity firms, who are investing in physician practices with renewed vigor. For them, the promise of streamlining operations, reducing management responsibilities and increasing compensation makes for an attractive package.
Communications Imperatives:
Labor
By Isaac Squyres, partner, Regional Practice; Teresa Hicks, associate vice president, National & Academic Health Systems Practice
Unions will be pushing. Persistent inflation in an already highly competitive job market could easily lead to continued pressure on labor costs for providers. This time around, it won’t be driven by the cost of travel labor as much as current employees looking for higher-than-customary cost of living and/or merit increases. Don’t be surprised to see unions using inflation during upcoming negotiations as leverage to push for wage increases.
Communications Imperatives:
M&A and Distressed Assets
By Isaac Squyres and Abby McNeil
More hospitals will be for sale, fewer buyers will be available. The eye-watering inflation figures keep triggering rate hikes, with another 75-point rise this week. That will continue to increase the cost of capital for systems evaluating potential deals from the buy-side and lead to pressure for those on the sell-side. With financing set to get harder and more expensive to access, highly leveraged organizations will feel the stress on their balance sheets. Large banks may already be pulling back credit availability to their big customers, potentially leaving organizations to go through other lenders or private funds to get through new projects or even to cover current needs.
Communications Imperatives:
Payer Relations
By Teresa Hicks
Everyone will look to cover shrinking margins. The jump in consumer prices is cranking up the heat in the pressure cooker that is payer/provider relations. Each side is bringing that extra stress to the negotiating table.
Communications Imperative:
Investing
By Sheila Biggs, associate vice president, Health Services Practice
Pressure to execute will increase. After a hot run of investment in 2021, economic uncertainty is starting to cool healthcare PE in 2022. That trend may continue as inflation points to a decent chance of recession. Valuations are now stabilizing after reaching significant heights over the past 12 to 18 months. The result? A greater focus on dialing in the operations and path to steady growth for existing portfolio companies. Resources and expertise will be deployed towards optimizing what’s already there, ensuring a pristine product-market fit and an emphasis on providing a great experience for patients and employees. In the end, that benefits everyone.
Communications Imperatives:
Social determinants of health
By Erika Matallana, associate vice president, Regional Practice
A perpetual problem will reach more people. Interest is growing in food-as-medicine. But with prices rising, the ability to use non-medical interventions to heal or prevent disease has become more difficult. Documented in countless reports over the years, many vulnerable populations have never had the option of food-as-medicine. Whether urban communities of color or the rural poor, purchasing healthy food has long been a financial stretch – if fresh vegetables are even available. What’s new now with inflation: The threshold for who can approach food-as-medicine has been raised, and even unhealthy food is becoming more expensive.
Communications Imperatives:
- This is the time for empathetic and transparent conversations with employees. Check in on them. Find out what they need.
- Share more with employees about the headwinds your system faces. Employees who believe in the work you do deserve to understand why you’re making the decisions you are, especially if they’re impacted.
- Re-up your price transparency and cost-estimator efforts. Make it as easy as possible for people to understand what they’ll be paying and how they can do it.
Physician Compensation
By James Cervantes, vice president, National & Academic Health Systems Practice
Competition and expectations will increase. Though they earn more than the average American, like the average American, their home pay is not keeping up with inflation. After record rises in 2021, inflation is set to again outpace expected physician salary growth of two to four percent in 2022. So those three percent increases provider organizations consider doling out to docs don’t go so far in showing the love.
Add to that increasing physician burnout, shifting Medicare fee schedule rates and growing reluctance to pay out shared savings – due to uncertainty and lower hospital margins – and you’re likely to have more unhappy docs coming through hospital doors. It’s a great opportunity for private equity firms, who are investing in physician practices with renewed vigor. For them, the promise of streamlining operations, reducing management responsibilities and increasing compensation makes for an attractive package.
Communications Imperatives:
- Hospitals and health systems seeking to keep physicians happy and honor their hard work from the pandemic years will probably need to go beyond three percent.
- Employers need to focus on the mission of the organization, the role the organization plays in the local community and how employment or affiliation with that organization can provide physicians with the personal and professional satisfaction that they’re looking for. But again, that promise must be backed by delivery.
Labor
By Isaac Squyres, partner, Regional Practice; Teresa Hicks, associate vice president, National & Academic Health Systems Practice
Unions will be pushing. Persistent inflation in an already highly competitive job market could easily lead to continued pressure on labor costs for providers. This time around, it won’t be driven by the cost of travel labor as much as current employees looking for higher-than-customary cost of living and/or merit increases. Don’t be surprised to see unions using inflation during upcoming negotiations as leverage to push for wage increases.
Communications Imperatives:
- Provider leadership needs to engage in and facilitate conversations now between nurses, unions and administration.
- In addition, have conversations about what employees may be looking for outside of monetary compensation to help with engagement, job satisfaction and retention. Those things may not fully make up for hourly-wage expectations, but it can help take the edge off. Be clear about what your organization can and can’t do – and why.
This piece was originally published over the weekend in our Sunday Quick Think newsletter. Fill out the form to get that in your inbox every week.
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DigitaLee 12: Poetry vs Prose
This week on DigitaLee, David Shifrin and Lee Aase talk about a potential reset in the startup economy, some of the digital apps and therapeutics that are making care more efficient regardless of the economic outlook, and then notes for healthcare provider organizations looking to implement or partner with those digital health tools.
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David Shifrin: Well, it’s no surprise to anybody that we are likely, or at least potentially, staring down the barrel of an economic downturn, possibly recession. And that has huge implications for everybody, of course, but also the investment community because when money is cheap, when interest rates are low, it’s easier to invest. And so there’s an interesting article in Fierce Healthcare titled “Here’s why some VC investors say an economic downturn can be good for digital health.” The general point of this article is that when it’s harder to build something, better things will get built. It’s the cheap and easy stuff isn’t as likely to be built. And so I think it’s exciting and also challenging because it means that innovators and entrepreneurs and startup founders and all the rest, people who are looking to make change, they’ve got to work harder and really find that product market fit, make sure it’s sustainable and all that. But talk a little bit about, you’ve got so much experience in the startup world as well as the digital world. What do you think about this idea that a downturn may be helpful in resetting the market?
Lee Aase: Yeah. Oh I think it’s, I think it’s right on because it really does impose a discipline on the startups to be having a product that people are willing to pay for that is meeting a real need that they’re eager to have. And it’s not just built on fluff and hope and hype, given what the project that I’m personally involved in right now, we’re focused on providing real value to patients. And as I look at it, we have concerns about a downturn, but we’re also saying, if you’re a low cost provider of a good service in a down economy, that actually creates big opportunity.
Because if you’re able to do that and then to scale, that’s meeting a real need, people will need healthcare, they will need health-related services. That’ll be something they’ll be likely to prioritize.
And what’s remaining to be spent after the doubling of gas prices and all is something that will be probably disproportionately skewed toward healthcare. But so then it makes the value delivery proposition really all that much more important.
You know, you don’t want a downturn, you’d rather, you’d prefer there not be. But given that’s a reality, and I think it’s everybody’s pretty much saying it’s a foregone conclusion that this is going to happen, so you might as well embrace that and understand what the new terrain’s going to be like.
And that really is putting constraints on an enterprise, causes it to need to be much more resourceful and need to make sure that everything you’re doing is contributing toward value for the customer. And it’s like in poetry versus just prose, okay? Poetry puts a limitation on it, and that’s why poetry and music, songs, can be much more meaningful is because it sets rules around you, that in terms of how you have to present your thoughts and your ideas versus rambling on a podcast like this.
David Shifrin: That’s so interesting because somebody I was talking to a couple weeks ago used a similar analogy. He was actually talking about a wedding toast that he had heard, and he made the point about the difference between being contained or having a container, rather than a cage. And those can seem very similar, but they’re not. And the guy I was talking to referenced it and said it’s like poetry and prose.
Lee Aase: Yeah I mean, I’m about to have the sixth of my children get married at the end of July. And what I’ve done for the others is that the father of the bride, father of the groom always, often, gives a toast or gives a speech. I’ve always done a poem, you know, it shows some thought going into it and a caring, actually, about – not to hammer on anybody who doesn’t do poetry in their wedding toast – but it’s just a way of showing that, yeah, I spent some time thinking about this and so I think it’s that same way with an enterprise that those kind of constraints, those rules and the rules of cash flow, as well as profitability, are things that impose a discipline that will, that can be very constructive.
David Shifrin: So let’s focus specifically then, Lee, on some areas where it does seem that there’s great value. And you’re talking about being able to deliver care more efficiently and cost effectively.
And so as you and I were prepping for this, bouncing some articles back and forth about the rising value of digital therapeutics and mental health apps, and then you also sent over a couple of ideas around digital diabetes treatments.
Lee Aase: Yeah. Well, when you’re talking about the things that affect the healthcare system, diabetes and diabetes related illnesses are just massive in terms of the impact on mortality, on morbidity, on just the finances of the healthcare system. And so Virta health is one of those startups based out of San Francisco.
And they’ve had about 50% of their patients be able to reduce or eliminate medications and get blood sugar normalization through dietary intervention, but it’s a real, it’s a high touch by high tech kind of approach. At Indiana University, Dr. Sarah Halberg led the research on this, where they did, it’s not a randomized control trial, but it was a targeted intervention where they were able to take patients who had type 2 diabetes give them this app-based interaction where they’re getting coaching and support from professionals who are able to help them in the behavior change, and to give them advice and help them to make these changes. And when you look at the amount of money that’s being spent on diabetes, medications and complications of diabetes, there’s a reason why I think the last I saw was that the market valuation for Virta health was $2 billion.
And so it’s all…the point is there’s a lot of opportunity there and that’s one in particular that I’ve seen. Levelshealth.com is another really interesting one. It’s more on the…the idea behind it is providing a way for people who are interested in blood sugar control, interested in their metabolic health, to be able to get a continuous glucose monitor, which ordinarily is only prescribed for people with diabetes as a way of monitoring their blood sugar day to day.
But a lot of people are becoming convinced type 2 diabetes doesn’t happen overnight. And by understanding better how our bodies react to different kinds of foods, we can maintain better blood sugar control for a lifetime and avoid the type 2 diabetes.
David Shifrin: So it becomes proactive rather than responsive.
Lee Aase: And there’s a, they’ve set up really an elegant platform.
A couple weeks ago that I went and signed up on their site, they have a waiting list. Okay, you sign up and you’re on a waiting list, which seems really weird for a company that’s selling the ability to have continuous glucose monitors, but then I think the point of that is that it’s membership based. So there’s a couple hundred dollars annual membership fee for this, then you go through a health questionnaire and then they do have a physician or medical licensed medical professional who’s able to prescribe a continuous glucose monitor. And anyway, I just got notification that my unit is shipped and I’m going to get to use it, but they did a really…I think there’s some interesting parts of this, by having the waiting list, it does create a scarcity sort of a feel. Also helps them monitor or make sure that they can manage a really good experience, that they’re not going to get overwhelmed with it.
David Shifrin: Just considering what we were talking about earlier, I mean, if you’re going to do this, you’ve got to do it, you can’t just pull in a bunch of money and then grow and then realize that you can’t sustain it. This has to be done well.
Lee Aase: Yeah. And then I think the other part of it is, by creating that scarcity, once you sign up, then you’re on their list and you get emails, and they get educated about it. Because I could see how some people might have misgivings at first when they say, oh, there’s a membership and that’s before I even get a CGM. And so giving people a little time for it to marinate a little bit is like a sales funnel, an extended sales funnel, for this that is creating an aware, a better understanding of the model and how their system works. So by the time, you know, it was like last week I got the email saying you have a chance to actually get into this, now you can get off the waiting list and get into it. And I was ready to do it, but I also wanted to experience what this platform was like.
So that I could have a better understanding of what’s happening in these in these startups and how they are. Really I think it’s a really interesting way, and we’ll have a really high impact on people being able to take charge of their own health.
David Shifrin: Yeah. And again, so much of this and so much of digital therapeutics and digital health in general is avoiding problems before they become problems. and that lowers costs down the road. That improves the economic balance in healthcare and society in general, so it makes a ton of sense.
So then Lee, as you think about a potential reset in the market and providers of all types are always looking to partner implement new software solutions, digital options, to improve care delivery all the rest, what does the process look like for that right now to make sure that you’re improving the patient experience and delivery of care, keeping costs down and frankly, picking a solution that’s not going to vaporize in two weeks because they ran out of money?
Lee Aase: Yeah. So I think it’s important for the clinical folks to be really bought in on “this is something that will be good for patients.” This really makes sense, from the patient care perspective or from the prevention perspective that this is something that they believe in.
And then being able to evaluate it in the context of so what are the costs of this? Is this going to add to us being able to provide this kind of care? Where can it save us money and some of the other things that we’re doing that will enable us to deliver a better value?
And then yeah, right, looking at the financial situation with the company itself and saying, does this model look like something that is not going to be gone tomorrow? That it’s something that if we’re going to go to market with it with our patients, that this is something that’ll stand the test of time, or at least make it as far as we can tell. Like stand the test of time sounds way…first of all, it’s a cliche story about that. But that it will stand the test of the current turbulence. And that this is a company that is likely to be able to sustain the value and sustain the services to our patient.
David Shifrin: Cool. Thanks, Lee.
Lee Aase: Thank you. I always love this.
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Healthcare and society are now two years into a period of renewed focus on improving diversity, equity and inclusion for both those employed within healthcare and those served by it. The hope, after devastating inequity and bias were brought to light through the pandemic and George Floyd’s murder, is that this “period” will in fact be permanent. It’s well past time to finally solve the lack of diversity within the upper echelons of healthcare and the gaping chasms in access and health equity between white and Black (as well as brown) populations.
So, then, what progress been made in the past two years? Is momentum being maintained towards bringing more Black voices and experience into healthcare, not just in word but also in deed through investment of FTEs and financial resources?
With the second federally-recognized Juneteenth holiday just passed on Sunday, the Jarrard Inc. DEI team, which operates under the Kaleidoscope name, wanted to get a sense of what’s happening across healthcare.
To do that, we sent questions out to some of our expert friends from across the industry whose work centers on DEI in healthcare – and beyond.
Every contributor reminded us that representation matters – it’s table stakes. And several pointed out the importance of organizations and leaders meeting people where they are by developing initiatives that fit with how those affected already live. That, rather than trying to pull people in and putting the burden on them.
Here are six themes from our conversations. Full quotes from the interviewees can be found below.
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Welcome to DigitaLee, the podcast for healthcare marketers, where we look at the digital news, tools, tips and tricks for effective healthcare communications. This week, David Shifrin and Lee Aase talk about the news that Netflix is cracking on their long-standing policy of going ad free. Then Lee gives an update on the rent versus own debate – and that’s with regards to blogs and social media, not the housing market, although that might be an interesting discussion too. Finally, they close by talking about Lee’s latest venture the HELPCare Clinic as an example of how digital tools can help personalize health care.
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David Shifrin: Well, hey Lee, going to kick off this week with the story about Netflix and streaming platforms. I almost bypassed this story because when I was looking around for digital healthcare marketing and saw this story about Netflix, I thought it was going to be just riding the coattails of all the discussion around Netflix.
And then I realized that it was from MM&M – Medical Marketing and…now I’ve forgotten what it is. What?
Lee Aase: Medical Marketing and Media.
David Shifrin: Medical Marketing and Media, they also rebranded not that long ago, I like their new logo. Anyway, despite the fact that I can’t remember what the 3 Ms stood for, it’s a solid site. They do some really good work. And so I thought it’d be worth clicking into it. The upshot of the article is that with Netflix now considering advertising, that could potentially change the game for companies looking about, looking at advertising in particular. I thought the really interesting point was that with economically thinking about this potential recession that we may be looking at, that is going to change sort of the ad spend and may open up some opportunities for smaller and mid-sized businesses to get in the game.
Lee Aase: Yeah. I just think it’s an amplification or it’s a multiplication of the number of places where advertisers can be, you know, and that as the continual fragmenting of the audiences, I mean, previously the Netflix audience has been inaccessible. Once somebody’s locked into Netflix, once they’re watching it, they’re uninterruptible and that’s actually been part of, a big part of the appeal as well is that people are able to watch things without being interrupted.
So, figuring out how that works within the Netflix platform will be interesting. But so many of these streaming services that are…Netflix had its 200,000 subscriber loss, and I think some of the others, being so many of these services that’ll supply demand. And especially if there’s an economic contraction that may open up space for smaller players to be able to get access to get their content into some of these niches that might fit really well with what their strategic goals are.
So I think it’s, yeah, the technology that the evolution of these platforms and their being ready to explore the ad supported, or at least partial ad supported, element is going to create some opportunities.
David Shifrin: How much do you think healthcare organizations should pursue this? And I don’t have numbers on this, but just thinking about my own viewing habits, which are primarily streaming, but I do watch regular or cable TV, I see…I can’t think of really any healthcare. I see some, I do see some pharma ads on streaming.
But you know, if I see an ad for Vanderbilt, my local hospital, it’s going to be on a local channel or on cable. It’s not coming through on an ad on Peacock, for example. So you know, how much value is there, and you’re talking about the audience fragmentation, is it worth a local hospital trying to get hyper-local targeting?
Lee Aase: I think that just depends on it might relate to what the initiative is. And is there a particular type of program that aligns really well with, we talked in the previous episode about some of them, diversity inclusion topics and initiatives.
There may be some places where if you’re able to get hyper-local targeting within these platforms, in addition to then content targeting, that you could find… I’d say there’s some opportunity. I’m not saying stop everything else you’re doing and pursue this, but it’s definitely something worth watching.
And I think the folks that have the most money to spend on it—the pharma folks—they’ll be the pioneers in that, I think. And as we in the provider space, in the hospital space, see what’s what they’re doing, I think that’ll spur some thoughts and some innovation among some of the marketing leaders to say, Hey, yeah, we could, this might fit for this particular initiative.
So it’s worth keeping an eye on.
David Shifrin: For the trend, I wanted to ask you about the current state of play on renting versus owning. And as I produce the content for Jarrard, we have a blog, we have a LinkedIn presence, and thinking about how we balance all these different platforms and where to focus.
So I think conventional wisdom for a lot of years is that organizations that are producing thought leadership and content want to own the platform. So that algorithm changes, any other kind of rule changes, aren’t affecting your ability to get that information out there, which is something we see with social media sites all the time, right?
Facebook changes their algorithm about every 10 minutes and it constantly changes the ability to be visible. But at the same time, there’s a lot of people on LinkedIn. There’s a lot of people Tik Tok. So how are you thinking about reach versus SEO, renting versus owning, website blog versus social media, et cetera.
Lee Aase: Yeah. I actually think of it as renting and owning. I think it’s like, you need to have the home and then you need to have the apartment in the, in the downtown or whatever, you know, it’s like, you need to be in both places and that’s actually a really helpful thing to be thinking about.
Because my bias has been toward having the control, that you need to have a home base. It’s important to have that, but I also recognize that the—like LinkedIn, for instance—with the thought leadership when you’re posting long form or longer form content, instead of just a link to your blog post you get readership there with people who don’t want to leave the app, and so you’re getting some impact from that. So I think being able to have maybe different versions of things that are in LinkedIn versus on the home base, maybe it’s an extended excerpt that you’re doing on LinkedIn or some content that is bespoke, as they say, for LinkedIn…I wanted to use that word, cause I’d never gotten it before and it’s…
David Shifrin: It is. It’s a very, it’s like a, it’s a sort of a…
Lee Aase: A super fancy word.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
David Shifrin: You’ve got turnkey and you’ve got bespoke.
Lee Aase: Yeah. Very good.
David Shifrin: Yeah. And something that we’ve been looking at recently on LinkedIn is their newsletter feature, which is not new, but it’s been slowly rolling out, and so we recently on our Jarrard account got access to it. And so I’ve been cross posting a lot of our content there, and it is effectively a secondary blog that people can subscribe to. It does seem to hit some folks who aren’t necessarily always seeing our content otherwise.
So I think it’s a good thing.
Lee Aase: Right. Yeah and you want to go where the people are. And if to the extent that you’re putting content in a place where it can be liked and commented and shared…in addition, just the convenience of reading it on platform versus having to click off to your website.
We have goals that we want to get people to our website; that is part of our core ideas. That’s how people sign up and like, they join with us and having a blend I think makes a lot of sense.
David Shifrin: Then finally for this week’s philosophical tip or philosophical discussion—philosophical might be little bit too lofty of a term but whatever—
Lee Aase: Yeah.
David Shifrin: I’ve been thinking about navigating the intersection of digital tools and channels with the really personal, intimate nature of healthcare. You know, there was something in the article that we just talked about, the MM&M article, about how advertising isn’t really meant to be hyper-customized because you’ve got to reach a broad audience, it’s got to be general. But healthcare is ultimately the most personal thing that you can have. It’s literally somebody touching you to help you through difficult times. And so I was thinking about this and then thought this is perfect because you’ve opened a clinic. You are doing this, you have an extensive career in the digital space and are now in a very personalized clinic. So how are you thinking about that balance of personal with something that’s a little bit more hands-off through a screen?
Lee Aase: Yeah, a big focus is that we want to make it so that technology is the facilitator for the personal, the technology isn’t a barrier technology, isn’t something that just enables us to scale. It does enable us to reach more people, does enable us to target to a community.
But also, we don’t want the technology to be something that gets in the way of those human interactions. We want it to be the enabler and facilitator of those reactions. And a lot of that is if it’s convenient for the patient to use video conferencing, if it’s a way that we can see them more easily, like they’re feeling sick and they don’t want to come in, that’s telemedicine: in the post-pandemic era, isn’t a like, ooh, that’s a whole new thing, but is an application of digital technology in a way that is more human because it is more individualized. It’s about that intimate relationship. So I’ve been blessed, pleased at how the technology, used in the right way, can be really that facilitator to make some of the things that would have been more difficult to do previously, much easier.
And so it’s been an exciting time to be starting something new because of the way that…well we talked earlier in, maybe it was in the previous episode? about some of the transcription tools and things like that that are able to be harnessed and used within a practice to just take it to that… take away some of the grunt work, where technology can take some of that effort out of the way that would enable then the human, the more direct human interaction at a higher level.
David Shifrin: Yeah, just the grunt work. That’s literally what you just said.
Lee Aase: Well, yeah, let me just, just let me just throw in another thing. So one way that we’ve used this is…so I mentioned previously Dr. Dave Strobel is our our medical director, our founder of the clinic, and one of the things he does is go into depth, great depth in describing conditions.
He’s an educator, he’s a teacher at heart, he loves to help patients understand what’s going on in their body and why and how all of this stuff works. And that’s part of the reason we have a one-hour appointment as our basic unit of seeing patients. There’s a lot of stuff that he says a lot of times, and so if we can use the vide to capture some of that stuff (and that’s part of what we’re doing), our production is like, this is the thing that you’ve said dozens of times, hundreds of times to people as you’re describing metabolic syndrome or the various other conditions. He’s got a video that we did on baby table manners, things like that in terms of how to get your kids eating solid food and kind of the right order to introduce foods.
You know, he could go through that every time. And he has done that for 30 years with patients, but if we can capture that and then say, okay, these are online video modules that are of specific, can be a specific interest to different elements of the practice, members of the clinic, then when they come in, they can have watched the video and they can go deeper and they can probe on the questions and we can say, what didn’t you understand? Or what could I explain better? And that helps us make the next, maybe add another module. If we find out that another video to the series, if we’re finding out that it isn’t communicated as clearly as it could be.
So I think that’s one way that if you can take the broader topics where there is some, it’s still pretty specific, it’s still pretty focused and in-depth, but then enabling to go even deeper within the individual patient visit.
David Shifrin: That’s where you go from a turnkey video series to a bespoke one hour appointment.
Lee Aase: Exactly, there we go!
David Shifrin: How do like that?
Lee Aase: Great stuff. Oh, how about that? You are a trained communicator and a PhD to boot.
David Shifrin: I’m just writing my notes here, getting my points in. All right. Thanks, Lee. It’s fun as always.
Lee Aase: All right. Appreciate it. Talk later.
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Healthcare mergers and acquisitions are having an interesting moment and were quite the topic of interest at April’s American Health Law Association’s Health Care Transactions Conference. As has been reported numerous times over the past year or two, the number of deals has dropped but the average size has gone up. Questions about how the current administration and FTC would approach consolidation have been a talking point across industries since now-President Biden won the presidency. Some massive deals go through, others get scuppered. And in the middle of these moves by traditional providers, private equity continues to evolve its role in healthcare delivery, bringing organizations together and backing them with capital and operational guidance.
With that backdrop, we circled back with a few of our AHLA friends to get their impressions of the current healthcare M&A environment. Specifically, we asked them:
- What were your top two takeaways from the event or conversations surrounding it?
- What was the biggest surprise?
- In light of the above, what are the top considerations for provider organizations to successfully navigate a transaction today?
Here are the topline takeaways. Quotes from the experts follow.
Themes
Uncertainty and concern around regulatory scrutiny of deals remains. And it’s not just from the FTC, but from states, as well.
The cost and shortage of labor, particularly travel nursing, is having downstream effects on the cost of doing business and patient outcomes.
Surprises
In the PE world, valuations are rising but not always for reasons one might expect. In many cases, multiples are pushing valuations as much as margins are.
It’s not just small, independent organizations that are being buffeted by a tough financial outlook. It’s a rocky landscape even for large systems, and that will likely be seen soon in M&A volume.
Across the board, seasoned industry veterans are expressing a notable level of concern thanks the rising cost of doing business and the added scrutiny on transactions.
Advice
Running a clean, organized transaction process is more important than ever.
Get counsel involved early to stay ahead of regulatory roadblocks.
Make the case for a deal – clearly and early.
Rex Burgdorfer
PARTNER
Health systems we talked with have been upended by the trend of traveling employees, especially nurses. In many cases, the cost structure of the organization has risen by 20 percent. The impact can not only be felt in the financial statements, but also in quality and safety measures. Temporary staff are often working in unfamiliar departments, with new equipment, and without the muscle memory on a team. The New York Times covered this well a few ago:‘Nurses Have Finally Learned What They’re Worth’
What were your top takeaways?
Health systems we talked with have been upended by the trend of traveling employees, especially nurses. In many cases, the cost structure of the organization has risen by 20 percent. The impact can not only be felt in the financial statements, but also in quality and safety measures. Temporary staff are often working in unfamiliar departments, with new equipment, and without the muscle memory on a team. The New York Times covered this well a few ago: ‘Nurses Have Finally Learned What They’re Worth’
What was the biggest surprise?
The degree to which historically high-performing systems have been shaken in 2022 was a surprise. While we don’t yet see the impact on M&A volume statistics, I think we will in the coming quarters.
What are top considerations to successfully navigate a transaction
Transparency is key. Designing and implementing a competitive process to provide fiduciary decision-makers with a basis of comparison has always been central to demonstrating to regulators (e.g., state attorneys general) that the terms and conditions achieved in a particular transaction are “fair.” Where a lot of systems go wrong is not using the LOI stage to proactively communicate the rigor of the market clearance, the rationale behind the combination and merits of the partnership to AGs.
Krista Cooper
SENIOR HEALTHCARE ATTORNEY
What were your top takeaways?
My biggest takeaways were related to the conference’s antitrust track. Essentially, between the FTC’s new “holistic approach” to merger review and the increased scrutiny on affiliations, we can expect more vigorous reviews on the federal level. When you layer that with new state laws requiring pre-transaction notifications, the shifts could have material impacts on the approach and timing of some transactions.
What was the biggest surprise?
Given the pace of PE transactions in 2021, I was surprised to learn that unspent capital is still near record highs.
What are top considerations to successfully navigate a transaction
Prepare and prepare some more! Provider organizations considering a transaction would be well served to understand their organization’s operations, the market conditions, and the basics of the regulatory landscape. Deals are still moving very quickly whenever possible, and being well organized with good professional support can make a big difference.
Jay Greathouse
PARTNER
What were your top takeaways?
Whether it is on the equity and funding side, or on the compliance side, healthcare transactions are under a tremendous spotlight from every level. Couple this scrutiny with a greater demand by sellers for creative upside capture (e.g., earnouts, aggressive liability limitations, representation and warranty insurance growth, etc.), and there is significant pressure on what the market will support in transactions.
What was the biggest surprise?
Healthcare transactions are always under scrutiny, so many practitioners see it as simply part of the practice. But hearing so many seasoned practitioners raise the flag on the new long-look landscape was eye-opening.
What are top considerations to successfully navigate a transaction
Transaction fundamentals matter more than ever. That means good governance behind an organized, clean transaction process being run by reputable counsel. Add in the antitrust scrutiny and greater examination of transitions, and I think we will see an uptick in deals that stall, fail or unwind – and that’s when the quality of the transaction will be examined in the public and courtroom.
Jay Harris
PARTNER
What were your top takeaways?
The keynote speaker discussed the returns on investment for private equity investments in healthcare. One of the statistics mentioned was that almost half of the returns enjoyed by PE investors in healthcare in the last decade have come from the increased multiples. Meaning, the improvement in multiples provided as much of the return on investment as revenue increases and margin improvement combined. Can we expect multiples to continue to increase over time from current levels?
Michael Ramey
PRINCIPAL
What were your top takeaways?
I heard an overall uncertainty, and some anxiety, regarding the level of anti-trust enforcement going forward. The administration has definitely communicated an increased focus on healthcare transactions, but the level of enforcement beyond acute care seems to be uncertain.
Also, an interesting fact conveyed by the keynote speaker is that valuation creation in private equity-backed entities, historically, has been through revenue and multiple expansion, not margin expansion. That leads to the question if such growth is sustainable.
What was the biggest surprise?
The biggest surprise to me is the prior noted comment regarding the lack of margin expansion in private equity-backed deals. This runs counter to the MSO model of creating efficiencies through scale to generate incremental value.
What are top considerations to successfully navigate a transaction
I think the tried and true approach of involving competent healthcare legal counsel early in the process to navigate regulatory and transactional landmines remains key, along with involving healthcare-specific financial and compliance advisors. Several stories were shared at the conference of bad outcomes when this isn’t followed.